| Words make Worlds: How Language Can Transform Leadership |
Podcast Channel Home > Coaching as a Leader > Words make Worlds: How Language Can Transform Leadership245: Words make Worlds: How Language Can Transform Leadership with Tony WorganIn this EpisodeJen Kidby is joined by leadership development coach Tony Worgan to explore how the language leaders use shapes the culture, dynamics, and performance of their teams. Tony shares insights from his coaching practice, highlighting the power of being intentional with words and the impact of “discounting” language—subtle phrases that can unintentionally diminish a person’s contributions or confidence. He encourages leaders to shift from reactive or rescuing behaviours toward more open, curious coaching conversations. By staying present rather than striving for perfection, leaders can create psychologically safe environments where people feel heard, valued, and empowered.
Tony also introduces practical tools from transactional analysis like the Drama Triangle which outlines the roles of Rescuer, Persecutor, and Victim in unproductive dynamics, and shows how to break out of these patterns. He explains the importance of “strokes”—small, meaningful recognitions that fuel trust and motivation—and offers advice on finding the right balance of positive and constructive feedback. The conversation emphasizes the long-term benefits of a coaching mindset, where thoughtful communication becomes a foundation for trust, growth, and stronger relationships at work. You Will Learn
Guest Bio'sTony Worgan has dedicated more than 25 years to developing leaders’ capacity to thrive and create effective working relationships for performance and well-being. Coaching is always the most significant element in the crucible of change. He has a Masters in Coaching & Mentoring and is a trained Transactional Analyst. Tony is now a Partner at Tablefish Consulting, specialising in leadership development, coaching and team relationships. Connect with Tony
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